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TV, Video, Blogs and Other Media :: RE: The "More Than Honey" Docu

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Author: Manuel Robert
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:34 am (GMT 0)

just saw the movie ( on DVD ).
Quit "moving", while also giving some hope. I especially liked the part on the africanized Honeybee.


Perone Hive :: type of bee

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Author: Manuel Robert
Subject: type of bee
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:41 am (GMT 0)

I just saw the movie " more than Honey ".
In the part about africanized Honeybees the beekeeper working them
( in the US. near the Mexican border ) states that Brazil has " embraced " the africanized bee.
This leads to the question whether part of the success of Mister Perone has something to do with the bees in Brazil having some africanized genes ?
Does anyone know more about this ?

Beginners start here :: RE: Swarm!

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Author: beeno
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:09 am (GMT 0)

Hi Dr. Teeth,
Too late they were already in swarming mode. However, do capture your swarm. Put it into any waterproof container with you top bars or cover with some plastic. I used my council recycling box with three large holes drilled for entrances (don't tell). Put the box where you intend to place the hive when ready. After a couple of weeks when the queen is laying you just move the frames into new hive on same site. DONE.

Bee health: the treatment (or not) of bee pests and diseases :: RE: "An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The Honeybee"

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Author: trekmate
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:02 pm (GMT 0)

Che Guebuddha wrote:
...... I spoke to several beeks here and all mentioned to avoid placing hives under the power lines. Aparentlly colonies behave very agressive. ........

My calmest colony live under a power cable. They'd probably never wake up if I moved them!! Laughing
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Bee health: the treatment (or not) of bee pests and diseases :: RE: "An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The Honeybee"

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Author: AnthonyD
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:13 pm (GMT 0)

Che Guebuddha wrote:
(I wonder if placing alu foil over top bars would reflect the EMF from the power line?)


No Che, it wouldn't.

You'd have to have a huge EMF repelling structure to make a difference -e.g a Faraday cage. One single horizontal layer of kitchen foil wouldn't impede an EM field at all. Its not droplets of rain, its a field of energy. Even with a faraday cage they'd be flying out of the hive straight into the field anyway.

Also as a point of interest, there is a beekeeper down these parts and he has hives going up in increments (as an experiment) to the top of a hill where a mobile phone mast is erected.
Anyways, one day in the middle of winter, he went up to check his bees and to his surprise the bees closest to the mast, about 3 or 4 colonies, were all on the ground in a big ball in front of the hive. Almost as if they had swarmed.

He rang the company who owned the mast, and they told him that the previous day they had shut off the mast for maintenance.

Obviously the bees had grown accustomed to the environment caused by the mast and when it was turned off they went haywire!

Perone Hive :: RE: type of bee

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Author: catchercradle
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:20 pm (GMT 0)

Not seen the movie yet but I wouldn't be surprised if some strains of Apis melifera do much better in a Perone hive than others. I am hoping to populate three of them with swarms this spring (if we get one) and will make notes of colour of bees etc when they are housed.
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My next hive will be populated by bees that have read the book but which book?

Bee health: the treatment (or not) of bee pests and diseases :: RE: "An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The Honeybee"

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Author: biobee
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:55 pm (GMT 0)

Che Guebuddha wrote:


Phil,

Do you know where to buy this EMF instrument and how to use it?


There are a number of devices on ebay that claim to detect and measure EMF, but as they mostly seem to be designed with 'ghost-hunters' in mind, I am very skeptical about their accuracy or even that they can detect Extremely Low Frequency radiation.

I have found an interesting circuit in an electronics book which I hope to find time to build soon. There is also a circuit for an Earth Field Magnetometer that is within my skill range to build, so I home to come to the unConvention armed with more than bent coat-hangers...
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Biodynamic beekeeping :: RE: Treating mites biodynamically

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Author: Barry Jackson
Subject: Interference
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:46 pm (GMT 0)

Too much interference with that precious nest, methinks.

Environmental issues, GM, pesticides and campaigning :: RE: 'There's No Tommorow' (Peak Oil Documentary)

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Author: Barry Jackson
Subject: Gas
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:51 pm (GMT 0)

With all that gas and hot air, you guys could have used it as fuel to think how stressful such a hopeless discussion was. So much disparity about the priapic Revolution which is probably 4 or 5 thousand years old and bees first flowers were gorse and last ivy even then, without hindrance from humans, who will have a somewhat shorter stay on this beautiful planet.

Horizontal top bar hives :: RE: Hive on campus

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Author: Barry Jackson
Subject: Top Bar Hive
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:55 pm (GMT 0)

Loved all that - Good luck guys.

Beginners start here :: RE: Following a swarm

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Author: happyculteur
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:32 pm (GMT 0)

I'm not sure that it's to do with ownership, as normally you are the owner all the time you are chasing, noisily or not.I've read a report of the practice in a "local history" book written in the mid 19th century and it was stated that noise was the important thing, the people were banging on boxes and metal with scythes ,hammers and sticks. Funny that Barbara mentions thunder, as the same was said to me by a very old "peasant beek"down here whom I know. I thought it was all folklore until I saw him bring a swarm down into a box by banging on a saucepan. I was so amazed I let him walk off with the swarm. Which was mine.

Beginners start here :: RE: Swarm!

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Author: Barbara
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:21 pm (GMT 0)

Dusko, I appreciate you qualified your suggestion to feed with the condition "if very little honey in combs". I HAD read this before I posted.

However you also posted "Feed the newly catched swarm or split to help them produce wax for comb building. They need lots of wax."
You are judging this situation from the only experience you have which was of last season's shocking weather in northern Europe. My bees also (as I stated in my post) swarmed because they were starving last summer, but as I have beekeeping experience of other summers, I know that this was quite unusual, therefore I advised this poster, taking into consideration their circumstances. Ideally one should not feed swarms unless conditions are really poor. Nectar is the best fuel for bees whether they are wax building or raising brood. If there is plenty to be had locally, it is better that they gather that than eat syrup.
As regards one extreme to the other, we had a terrible job persuading you to feed your bees syrup last year when they desperately needed it and now you are encouraging others to do it when it is not needed.... to me that is opposite extremes!

Anyway, I had also read and contributed to Dr Teeth's previous post asking about harvesting because the hive was full to bursting, a couple of weeks ago, so I know the hive has plenty of honey.

Regards

Barbara
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Perone Hive :: RE: type of bee

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Author: andy pearce
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:31 pm (GMT 0)

I am not sure, Oscar Perone did/does have Africanised bees in his hives but also non Africanised bees further south. He says the system will work with any bee, which is why we thought we would give the black bee a go in our Mark 1 Perone Hive. However, as is system is leave alone then the bee keeper does not come in contact with the bees except once per year this system is possibly the only one which can be used in areas of Africanised bees but still appears to work with other types of western honey bees. There is a video on youtube showing a couple of fellows and their Perone Hive from Argentina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VpO0C-Nt6M

these are not Africanised bees, they would not be able to get that close. A great system for Africanised but worth a go with non Africanised too.
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Beginners start here :: RE: Swarm!

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Author: zaunreiter
Subject: Re: Swarm!
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:08 pm (GMT 0)

Bottom line: it depends. Razz


DrTeeth wrote:
...won't have time to get a hive together to do so.


First rule in beekeeping: build more spare hives. Or at least nucs to hive the bees from swarms or splits. Or...

Make use of bad weather in wintertime to make sure you are ready for the season.

DrTeeth wrote:
...Could that have contributed to this? Either pulling the comb or perhaps waiting too long to do so?


Depends. Wink Perone says: a lot of honey, a lot of peace and a lot of (comb) space. Just make sure the bees have plenty to feed on and plenty of combs for egg laying. If the bees are short of either they dwindle, swarm or do other stuff.

In this case I guess (guess...) there was too little free comb for egg laying. I do have a pretty good hypothesis on it, that I'll present at the convention in detail. Not here, since a scientific study is ongoing to verify or not the hypothesis.

Bernhard

Bee health: the treatment (or not) of bee pests and diseases :: RE: "An HOLISTIC Way in Saving The Honeybee"

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Author: CharlieBnoobee
Subject: Cherish the thought
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:52 pm (GMT 0)

It came as something of a relief to find out at http://dailygrail.com/features/the-myth-of-james-randis-million-dollar-challenge, that the Jas. Randi "Mil. £ challenge" was bogus all along, and has been retracted for a couple of years now. And now back to the serious challenge of making the detection of the Hartman grid an easy matter for Everyman. Or at least Every Beekeeper.

Several 'If' removes away, there's a possibility that If this grid is in fact of an oscillating magnetic field nature, (not an electromagnetic field at all), and If strong enough, and a coil were positioned in it, and If said coil were of the correct number of turns, wire gauge, resistance, overall size, configuration (long & oblong or flat, or cylindrical, etc., etc.), and If properly oriented to the grid, then the induced AC could be of sufficient wattage to power at least a pair of "ear bud" sized phones without the need of any electronic amplification.

Then again, it may turn out that an amplifier could be built for £9.85 (earphones included) plus 2 hrs. of time which would do the job of a coil costing several hundred $$, 2 weeks of tedious time to construct, and requiring at least 2 sturdy men to move. On the other hand, (extreme other hand) the grid might be strong enough to provide a means of practical power generation. Who knows?

What I find most appealing about all this is the delicious irony that a motley crew of rag-tag-but-earnest beekeepers might, just might, come up with some findings that would ultimately provide a spark resulting in multiple advances in the earth sciences, plant and animal physiology, entomology, and many, many other fields of investigation—both theoretical and applied— that all the world's collective expertise and wealth hadn't provided up to that point. Savor the lovely thought!
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Beginners start here :: RE: Swarm!

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Author: DrTeeth
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:22 am (GMT 0)

Yes, it is spring here. Pretty much every car, sidewalk, etc. is covered in pollen.

I'll do an assessment tomorrow and see where things stand. Then post an update.

Much obliged everyone for your help.

Introduce yourself :: RE: greetings from Japan

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Author: beewest
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:45 am (GMT 0)

Norm wrote:
Hello & welcome. Smile

Will you be setting up a blog about this?


I have a blog set up in conjunction with my son, who lives in Dallas, Texas, and who also keeps bees. The blog is at http://bees.arthurwestover.com/

Sorry I have not kept active on this forum. There are many posts on that blog. I am sorry to say that my native Japanese bees absconded this past summer due to the hive overheating. It was an exceptionally hot summer and I had the hive on top of the roof of a cement building.

Bee products, bee plants and apitherapy :: RE: UK native plants by postcode

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Author: Honeyforheroes
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:11 am (GMT 0)

Thanks Phil.

I volenteer at a nature reserve in Hitchin, this is going to be really helpful identifying a number of the plants that you don't find in the usual books available off the shelf.

I have one of my hives on a water meadow a few hundred metres from the reserve, hoping this year is going to be better than last, going on the current weather pattern, it's looking like another difficult year for different reasons.

Beginners start here :: RE: Swarm!

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Author: Che Guebuddha
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:02 am (GMT 0)

Quote:
As regards one extreme to the other, we had a terrible job persuading you to feed your bees syrup last year when they desperately needed it and now you are encouraging others to do it when it is not needed.... to me that is opposite extremes!


You have been throwing this into my face on several occasions! Terrible job?! You sure use harsh statements! I've learned from Bernhard that it is of benefit to new colonies to be fed to ensure the ammount of combs needed to at least over winter! Skepists feed newly cought swarms to give them a kick start. Bernhard didnt say to feed only if it is bad weather but all new colonies. Yet I didnt see you using words "shocked" or "terrible" on him!

Next time you write such personal statements do it by PM please! We are in public here and such harsh comments lead easily to off topic!
You could have made your point without going personal Im sure!
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